Do you believe there’s something inside you that knows who you really are? It knows what kind of life you’re meant to live, the type of work that lights you up, and what your soul is asking of you? In this episode, you’ll learn how to start listening to it.

Dr James Hollis, an 85-year-old Jungian analyst and author of 22 books, has spent more than four decades helping people uncover what’s really driving their search for something more. What he has to say is profound, practical – and potentially life-changing.

I begin by asking a deceptively simple question: what is a life of meaning? James explains that it’s not something you go out and find. Rather, it arises when you start living in alignment with your soul’s agenda. He shares his own powerful story of achieving everything he thought he wanted by 35, only to be hit by a depression that forced him to look inward for the first time. That crisis became a turning point and informed the wisdom he shares so generously today.

We discuss why so many people who’ve reached the top in prestigious careers end up in therapy rooms like James’s, questioning what they’ve done with their lives. And we talk about how the ideas and cultural conditioning we absorb as children can misdirect us as adults.

We also speak honestly about depression and why I believe that medics are too quick to reach for diagnoses and prescriptions, when the real issue is a life lacking in meaning. And James and I connect over our fathers, both of whom made sacrifices for their families. We ask what their stories teach us about purpose and alignment – and James shares his advice on how we can help our children to truly thrive.

James has a knack of simplifying complex psychological ideas into realistic advice. And he has some useful ideas for reconnecting with your psyche. He describes his work as a therapist not to provide answers, but to facilitate ways we can find them ourselves – through creative pursuits, dreaming, or simply asking better questions.

Whether you’re in the middle of a career you’re not sure about, navigating a restless midlife, or simply feeling drawn toward something you can’t yet name, this episode will meet you exactly where you are. I came away feeling reassured and inspired, and I’m confident you will too.